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		<title>Comment on Packaged HTML5 Apps: Are we emulating failure? by groovecoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>groovecoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m interested - what&#039;s your company&#039;s financial model for native, hybrid, and web-based apps? 

Last I heard, even the &quot;pure&quot; native app stores don&#039;t offer a sustainable financial model for most developers. (http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ios-app-success-is-a-lottery-and-60-of-developers-dont-break-even/)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested &#8211; what&#8217;s your company&#8217;s financial model for native, hybrid, and web-based apps? </p>
<p>Last I heard, even the &#8220;pure&#8221; native app stores don&#8217;t offer a sustainable financial model for most developers. (<a href="http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ios-app-success-is-a-lottery-and-60-of-developers-dont-break-even/" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ios-app-success-is-a-lottery-and-60-of-developers-dont-break-even/</a>)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packaged HTML5 Apps: Are we emulating failure? by Rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 11:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice discussion. IMO the factor which governs the success/failure of html5 apps is not the technology itself but it is going to be evolution of the financial model behind these apps that would ensure a proper RoI. Until unless we have a sustainable Appstore like the once with native applications this is not going to last long. 

We being a mobile company (http://www.techendeavour.com/mobile-application-development) have done all. Native, hybrid as well as Web (HTML5 based) but still the trend does not seem to shift towards html5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice discussion. IMO the factor which governs the success/failure of html5 apps is not the technology itself but it is going to be evolution of the financial model behind these apps that would ensure a proper RoI. Until unless we have a sustainable Appstore like the once with native applications this is not going to last long. </p>
<p>We being a mobile company (<a href="http://www.techendeavour.com/mobile-application-development" rel="nofollow">http://www.techendeavour.com/mobile-application-development</a>) have done all. Native, hybrid as well as Web (HTML5 based) but still the trend does not seem to shift towards html5.</p>
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		<title>Comment on mac raspberry pi dd permission denied by Ronnie H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah, blowing the dust out of the SD card slot worked for me also. Thanks for the tip! And thanks for the flashback of the Nintendo days :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, blowing the dust out of the SD card slot worked for me also. Thanks for the tip! And thanks for the flashback of the Nintendo days <img src='http://groovecoder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Packaged HTML5 Apps: Are we emulating failure? by groovecoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>groovecoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 14:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, of course. My discover-ability arguments are against native apps. I extend them to packaged HTML5 apps because I don&#039;t understand why web developers spend time to support these failures of the native mobile platforms - because &quot;everyone wants an app&quot;? Is that a good reason? I don&#039;t think so, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.forecast.io/its-not-a-web-app-its-an-app-you-install-from-the-web/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some web app developers are showing that even consumers are poised to repatriate the web on their mobile devices&lt;/a&gt;.

It makes sense to use PhoneGap to use device/hardware features that the mobile browser doesn&#039;t support, but a mobile web app at an easy URL kills native app stores for discover-ability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, of course. My discover-ability arguments are against native apps. I extend them to packaged HTML5 apps because I don&#8217;t understand why web developers spend time to support these failures of the native mobile platforms &#8211; because &#8220;everyone wants an app&#8221;? Is that a good reason? I don&#8217;t think so, and <a href="http://blog.forecast.io/its-not-a-web-app-its-an-app-you-install-from-the-web/" rel="nofollow">some web app developers are showing that even consumers are poised to repatriate the web on their mobile devices</a>.</p>
<p>It makes sense to use PhoneGap to use device/hardware features that the mobile browser doesn&#8217;t support, but a mobile web app at an easy URL kills native app stores for discover-ability.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packaged HTML5 Apps: Are we emulating failure? by Raymond Camden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Camden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disclaimer - I work for Adobe and am a PhoneGap lover. :) 

I&#039;m curious why your two introductory arguments (app discoverabilty and content discoverability) are used as a means to argue against PhoneGap? Those arguments apply to native apps in general. Is there a reason why you have them here in an argument against packaged HTML5 apps when they apply to native apps as well?

As to PhoneGap, one of their philosophies is to actually *not* exist in the future. The team would love to see mobile web get to a point where things like camera access and other hardware APIs are opened up to the web. I think that would be great too, but I can never see it happening completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer &#8211; I work for Adobe and am a PhoneGap lover. <img src='http://groovecoder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious why your two introductory arguments (app discoverabilty and content discoverability) are used as a means to argue against PhoneGap? Those arguments apply to native apps in general. Is there a reason why you have them here in an argument against packaged HTML5 apps when they apply to native apps as well?</p>
<p>As to PhoneGap, one of their philosophies is to actually *not* exist in the future. The team would love to see mobile web get to a point where things like camera access and other hardware APIs are opened up to the web. I think that would be great too, but I can never see it happening completely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on phpunit travis ci undefined offset by PHP Quality Assurance &#8211; Tulsa Web Devs &#124; BlaineSch</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHP Quality Assurance &#8211; Tulsa Web Devs &#124; BlaineSch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the WordPress side Luke Crouch gave a lightning talk about one of his recent article of him setting up Travis-Ci and some best practices while developing regarding unit testing, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Mozilla &amp; Tulsa Web Devs by Brad Metcalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Metcalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 04:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Mozilla &amp; Tulsa Web Devs by groovecoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>groovecoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the Tulsa Web Devs meeting? There&#039;s no cost for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Tulsa Web Devs meeting? There&#8217;s no cost for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mozilla &amp; Tulsa Web Devs by Brad Metcalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Metcalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking forward to this next week since hearing about it. I assume their isn&#039;t a cost? Just asking because I am professionally unemployed these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to this next week since hearing about it. I assume their isn&#8217;t a cost? Just asking because I am professionally unemployed these days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packaged HTML5 Apps: Are we emulating failure? by mws</title>
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		<dc:creator>mws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who the hell wants to check-in anyways, whats it good for]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who the hell wants to check-in anyways, whats it good for</p>
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